[pfdietz]

I'm pointing out that a plan to greatly limit world energy consumption is necessarily horrible, since it condemns most of the world to energy poverty.

You seem to be evading this simple mathematical point.

Renewables are being installed widely around the world. This is how much of the world will be lifted out of energy poverty.

I think some of the opposition to the idea of a renewable powered world comes from some of those who realize, at some level, that this relatively disadvantages the higher latitude white countries.