[tim333]

Preventing people from working if they didn't get a covid vaccine was a bit heavy handed.

And saying it was likely made in a lab in China is kind of censored to this day. I think partly because the science community doesn't want to take flack for doing risky stuff and killing millions.

[worik]

> Preventing people from working if they didn't get a covid vaccine was a bit heavy handed.

Nobody did that. They prevented you from working with me

Nobody here or there was forced to get a vaccine. But if you refused it was right to shun you

Freedom is about more than the individual. We as a group should be free from the consequences of individual actions

[rdtsc]

Wrong they did that to me. Not a small company either. Yeah you can play games with “we won’t fire you, we’ll just stop paying you and won’t allow you to work”.

It’s like they watched Office Space and thought they’d “Milton” everyone.

> Freedom is about more than the individual.

The individual is what it starts with.

[Meekro]

The Biden administration had OSHA make rules to force employers to make their employees get the vax. The Supreme Court stopped them.

[chasd00]

My employer of 750k people made it very clear, upload proof of vaccination or be fired. That’s a fact.

[nostrademons]

That was GP's point. Being fired != being prevented from working. You are still free to get a job at a different employer that has different policies.

[rdtsc]

Exactly. That kind of Machiavellian games is what they played. See, we’re not firing you. We just won’t pay you.

[booleandilemma]

You're splitting hairs. If people didn't get vaccinated during covid they became social pariahs. People were literally calling for their deaths.

[tim333]

My point as a Brit was it seemed a bit heavy handed in the US. In the UK we didn't really have that and still got most people vaccinated.

It would have made more sense if the vaccines actually stopped catching it and transmission but they don't really, they mostly just seem to reduce the harm when you catch it. In terms of not spreading it to others you are better isolating than relying on the vaccines - I've had that as a practical issue with my late 80s mum who I visit. Although I've had 4 jabs I've still had it caught it twice since, and have avoided giving it to her by testing if I feel ill and staying away. Which is kind of to say some of the politicians views on it were heavy handed and a bit iffy scientifically.

[LtWorf]

Workers are free to work or free to starve.

-- Karl Marx

[viridian]

This is misinformation. My employer mandated it for all employees, and my entire IT organization 100% WFH, coming in wasn't even an option.

[momoschili]

From a philosophical perspective, I don't see how the vaccine mandates for public jobs is appreciably different than vaccine requirements for public school that already exist.

As far as the China lab goes, there were plenty of scientific papers that studied the China leak theory, though I personally don't know what they found.

[aziaziazi]

The difference between the vaccines you're talking about lies in their development time: The one in school have been (tested) around for decades before getting mandatory.

[ProjectArcturis]

The COVID vaccines have now been around for 4 years now, and there is no evidence they are appreciably more dangerous than those other vaccines that took longer to develop.