[rollcat]

On an individual level - no, I don't think so, at least not easily. One can't be helped if they don't want to, or don't see a reason why they would need help. Successful therapy is 99% your own work, a therapist will help you find the door but it's you who must take the step.

On social level, we need to call out this sort of viewpoint/behaviour, and make it clear it's beyond unacceptable. Then it's up to the individual to decide if they want to reintegrate with society (which would be predicated on seeking help).

[daghamm]

This is what I have learned after working with some really crazy people:

1. Show them some love, even if they don't deserve it

2. Don't be combative or argumentative. If the guy believes earth is flat, don't try to change his mind. But be open on where you stand and don't try to pretend sharing some of his views just to please him.

May not work on everyone and some folks are just evil, but I think many crazy dudes out there are just alone and have really bad social skills.

[rollcat]

I had to think about this for a while.

> 1. Show them some love, even if they don't deserve it

That's the problem. Everyone deserves love, but it's a bit of a chicken & egg problem when you run into someone who thinks of themselves as so repulsive, that they are convinced they don't deserve being loved.

My personal experience in this area has mostly been with people who already have been in therapy, sought help, etc and sometimes even then have problems accepting love, even when offered unconditionally (which might be also super difficult for the offering side).

But you're right, even a little bit of love and well-intentioned attention can go a long way. I hope that if drummyfish is reading this entire thread (which might be extremely emotionally demanding), they can see that the appreciation for their work and achievements is well-earned and deserved.

The root of the problem and the solution is (and always has been) to love oneself. If one can't accept self-love, how would they be able to accept love from others?

[aniviacat]

> One can't be helped if they don't want to, or don't see a reason why they would need help.

It appears to me he does see a reason why he'd need help. Some statements from his site:

> I am quite lonely

> I am physically the most disgusting form of existence that ever lived, I am so ugly people vomit when they merely see me.

> I am impossible to be loved romantically

> I am largely scared of falling in love.

He appears to have significant social and self-esteem issues. He recognizes that.

I assume the lonelyness he has to deal with is the core reason for why he developed such extreme views.

Since he recognizes these issues it appears to be quite realistic for him to learn to normally engage with society again. I think he can be helped.

Now, as to how someone who's cut off from society and doesn't posess basic social skills can learn to socialize again, I don't know. Therapy perhaps, but that's a difficult step to take.