[Loughla]

We did when I was a kid. Nobody locked their doors in my town. In fact multiple people just had blanks over the holes meant for deadbolts.

Then the local powerplant shut down, and the manufacturing associated with it left as well. The largest employer in the area besides those two moved operations to China. Then methamphetamine became popular and then heroin, too.

Now you can't leave anything unlocked or outside.

[consteval]

> We did when I was a kid. Nobody locked their doors in my town. In fact multiple people just had blanks over the holes meant for deadbolts.

Yeah, because you guys had a warped perception of crime.

Virtually all crime now is significantly lower than it was just 20 years ago. You might not believe that, but it's true!

What's happening here is people's perceptions are being warped, almost certainly due to political propaganda. But the numbers don't lie, just take a look at the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

[Loughla]

I hear you, and nationally that is probably true. But locally it's just not. There genuinely wasn't crime here outside of drunk fights once a year at the local pool hall.

Now there is genuine crime. Drugs and murder.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that your argument doesn't apply on the local scale. Using macro data for micro experience is a bad idea.

This is also the reason that argument falls flat in a lot of places.