[irq-1]

What will ECH mean for places like China or South Korea? Do governments have access to Cloudflare logs? Only with court orders?

ECH seems directly opposed to Chinese governments control of the web.

[vetinari]

I think you meant North Korea, not South.

It means nothing. Countries always ask nicely first for a domain to be blocked for IPs from their countries. Companies like Cloudflare or Akamai can either honor the request, or find their IP range blocked (yes, including all the other serviced domains). They usually take the first option.

[frankjr]

> I think you meant North Korea, not South.

South Korea is infamous for their internet censorship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_South_K...

[lifthrasiir]

There are many more countries enforcing some limitations on the internet, and ECH will just turn passive DPI into active court orders, I believe. At least explictness is better.