[nopromisessir]

Highly speculative.

Also highly cynical.

Some folks are professional and mature. In the best organisations, the management team sets the highest possible standard, in terms of tone and culture. If done well, this tends to trickle down to all areas of the organization.

Another speculation would be that she's resigning for complicated reasons which are personal. I've had to do the same in my past. The real pro's give the benefit of the doubt.

[itsoktocry]

What leads you to believe that OpenAI is one of the best managed organizations?

[nopromisessir]

Many hours of interviews.

Organizational performance metrics.

Frequency of scientific breakthroughs.

Frequency and quality of product updates.

History of consistently setting the state of the art in artificial intelligence.

Demonstrated ability to attract world class talent.

Released the fastest growing software product in the history of humanity.

[kranke155]

We have to see if they’ll keep executing in a year, considering the losses in staff and the non technical CEO.

[nopromisessir]

I don't get this.

I could write paragraphs...

Why the rain clouds?

[dfgtyu65r]

This feels naive, especially given what we now know about Open AI.

[nopromisessir]

If you care to detail supporting evidence, I'd be keen to see.

Please no speculative pieces, rumor nor hearsay.

[apwell23]

Well why was sam altman fired. it was never revealed.

CEOs get fired all the time and company puts out a statement.

I've never seen "we won't tell you why we fired our CEO" anywhere.

now he is back making totally ridiculous statments like 'AI is going to solve all of physics' or that 'AI is going to clone my brain by 2027'

This is a strange company.

[alephnerd]

> This is a strange company.

Because the old guard wanted it to remain a cliquey non-profit filled to the brim with EA, AI Alignment, and OpenPhilanthropy types, but the current OpenAI is now an enterprise company.

This is just Sam Altman cleaning house after the attempted corporate coup a year ago.

[llamaimperative]

When the board fires the CEO and the CEO reverses the decision, that is the coup.

The board’s only reason to exist is effectively to fire the CEO.

[apwell23]

I think thats some rumors that they spread to make this look like a "conflict of philosophy" type bs.

There are some juicy rumors about what actually happened too. much more belivable lol .

[sverhagen]

Did you also try to oust the CEO of a multi-billion dollar juggernaut?

[nopromisessir]

Sure didn't.

Neither did she though... To my knowledge.

Can you provide any evidence that she tried to do that? I would ask that it be non-speculative in nature please.

[alephnerd]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/technology/openai-sam-alt...

[nopromisessir]

Below are exerts from the article you link. I'd suggest a more careful read through. Unless out of hand, you give zero credibility to first hand accounts given to the NYT by both Mirati and Sustkever...

This piece is built on conjecture from a source whose identify is withheld. The sources version of events is openly refuted by the parties in question. Offering it as evidence that Mirati intentionally made political moves in order to get Altman ousted is an indefensible position.

'Mr. Sutskever’s lawyer, Alex Weingarten, said claims that he had approached the board were “categorically false.”'

'Marc H. Axelbaum, a lawyer for Ms. Murati, said in a statement: “The claims that she approached the board in an effort to get Mr. Altman fired last year or supported the board’s actions are flat wrong. She was perplexed at the board’s decision then, but is not surprised that some former board members are now attempting to shift the blame to her.” In a message to OpenAI employees after publication of this article, Ms. Murati said she and Mr. Altman “have a strong and productive partnership and I have not been shy about sharing feedback with him directly.”

She added that she did not reach out to the board but “when individual board members reached out directly to me for feedback about Sam, I provided it — all feedback Sam already knew,” and that did not mean she was “responsible for or supported the old board’s actions.”'

This part of NYT piece is supported by evidence:

'Ms. Murati wrote a private memo to Mr. Altman raising questions about his management and also shared her concerns with the board. That move helped to propel the board’s decision to force him out.'

INTENT matters. Mirati says the board asked for her concerns about Altmans. She provided it and had already brought it to Altmans attention... in writing. Her actions demonstrate transparency and professionalism.