[zokier]

The problem with all these font rendering discussions is that we are missing some ultra-high quality (offline) reference rendering system to compare against. Not only does that make these discussions pretty unproductive (just subjective back and forth), but also practically that drives font designers to build fonts that look good on their preferred platform(s), rather than something that is built to look good on spec. This drives then feedback loop where other platforms then need to start emulating the major popular platforms with their flaws instead of aiming for the highest quality; for example this stem-darkening is almost certainly just inspired by macos but doesn't really have justification outside that.

[winternewt]

On a related note, I thought that by 2024 we would have displays with 250+ dpi resolution, but to my disappointment I'm still waiting for this to be a reality on anything but small laptop screens. A lot of the rendering tricks that corrupt the appearance of fonts have to do with how few pixels are available for rasterisation. We should have been getting print-quality text by now.

[musicale]

> I thought that by 2024 we would have displays with 250+ dpi resolution,

The "retina" iMac 27" (5K display, ~218 PPI) came out in 2014.

I've been using this resolution since 2016. 32" 8K seems like the next logical step but it's disappointingly expensive/unavailable.

[craftkiller]

Ahem... https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/viewsonic-vg3281-with-31-5-ips...

Personally I'm holding out for UHBR20

Edit: Also there's this one from 2017 https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-32-8k-monito...

[winternewt]

Right, I have seen the Dell screen before. But it is currently an extremely niche product which means it is wildly outside my price range. And the VG3281 is still not available in my country even though it was released in 2023.

[bartvk]

Is that ViewSonic monster actually for sale?

[craftkiller]

Seems you get a "contact sales" form when you go to https://www.viewsonic.com.cn/products/lcd/VG3281-8K and click the red button that Google translates to "business consulting". So I'm not actually sure.

[moe_sc]

> The monitor is currently listed on Chinese retailer Taobao for the equivalent of ~$2400 USD.

Seems like it is

[mproud]

The future is now.

Apple and Microsoft both make high DPI displays over 260 ppi on their largest 15-inch+ notebooks and tablets.

[t0bia_s]

As graphic designer I'm able to work on 106-120 PPI displays. Anything higher means upscaling which is problematic for UI design, especially on web.

[ttarr]

We can't hold back the world because of some lazy UI Devs, I can't believe we still facing scaling issues in 2024!

My solution, under Linux, I get laptop screens with 2X scaling, i.e. 2.8K and 3.2K for larger laptops.

[t0bia_s]

Linux does not support 10 bit colours. Also DCI P3 is still not standard instead of sRGB.

[hulitu]

> Linux does not support 10 bit colours.

This is funny because 25 years ago SGI supported 10 bits of colour.

[winternewt]

I'm well aware, but that hasn't translated to similar resolutions on desktops even though laptops have had them for almost a decade.