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by trhway 640 days ago
>resources needed to "build enough infrastructure."

Strarship will put into orbit 100tons at $10M or so. I.e. <5kg (Nvidia H100 plus 1M2 of aluminum radiator (would radiate 0.5-1Kw away at 60-70C) plus 0.5Kw of solar panels) for <$500, ie. peanuts compare to the price of the H100 or whatever NVDA would be charging $30K/card.

And wars willn't be fought over AI. Wars will be fought using AI. Humans will have no chance in controlling millions of their own and responding to the actions of the millions of the enemy's simultaneously active automated high-precision munitions of all kinds, and that picture leads to a new, non-nuclear this time, AI-based MAD (that of course means that like with nuclear race back then all the parties have to build their capabilities right now as fast as possible, Manhattan project style).

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Heat doesn't radiate like that in space. This topic comes up on HN often enough.

There isn't anything to carry the heat away because space is, by definition, empty. The energy has to be carried away by something. Cooling space stations is a legit real problem.

The only thing space gets you is somewhat better solar efficiency, but we aren't lacking of land to build solar panels on here on earth.

>Heat doesn't radiate like that in space.

What do you mean? I stated black body radiation numbers.

>There isn't anything to carry the heat away because space is, by definition, empty.

Heat radiation. Which is what Sun for example does in that empty space.

>Cooling space stations is a legit real problem.

Please, numbers. Otherwise it is just some hand-waving.

>The only thing space gets you is somewhat better solar efficiency, but we aren't lacking of land to build solar panels on here on earth.

Space gets you away from regulations, corrupt bureaucrats, and the threat of war/terrorism/etc. for example. At $100/Kg building in space looks to be just cheaper. And space allows to have solar and datacenter in the same unit, while on Earth you have to deliver your electricity from a solar farm somewhere to the datacenter. There is a reason Oracle started to talk nuclear in the datacenter. And between nuclear in the datacenter on Earth and solar+datacenter in space at $100/Kg i think the space scenario would be simpler and cheaper.

> Wars will be fought using AI.

I agree with the sentiment but not the mechanism (munitions). If power equates to control of resources then destroying the resources is kind of self-defeating. Far better then to "win" a war by getting friendly regimes installed that are aligned to your interests. We're already seeing the importance of this kind of approach, but the ultimate evolution will be that what used to be called propaganda (disinformation) will not just facilitate a war of guns and bombs, it will _be_ the war - able to directly achieve the end-goals of the "war" with not a single shot fired. AI is a huge amplifier of capability in this domain.