[WalterBright]

> I guess the point is that you often don't know all of the reasons someone might be riding in a specific way, and it's worth giving the benefit of the doubt.

What would you think of a car wandering randomly into other lanes?

[Filligree]

If there were frequent boulders and rapidly moving aggressive bears in their intended lane, then I would give them a pass for dodging.

Want cyclists to stick to the cycle lane? Make it safe for us to do so. Anyhow, it’s perfectly legal to cycle in the car lanes.

[WalterBright]

The bike lanes around here are wide and clear. Nothing unsafe. They still regularly veer into the car lane.

> it’s perfectly legal to cycle in the car lanes

Reminds me of a phrase: "don't be right, dead right".

[Filligree]

Cars have no trouble seeing bicycles that are in front of them.

Which is why I don't like to be in the bicycle lane at a crossing. Inevitably someone will turn left without seeing me there.

[downut]

Here in GA it happens all the time. LoC with the driver staring at a screen or off into space deep in a conversation. It is mandatory for me to drive within the lane because if for instance there is a 2' shoulder with a rumble strip I'll get a full size semi driving 55 mph right on that right white line within an inch or two of me. Ordinarily nice people get very aggressive in their gigantic killing cages.

[bondarchuk]

That would clearly be much worse because a car is much more deadly.