[stonethrowaway]

Even if ASPI overdid it, I think it’s prudent to look at China’s advancement momentum all the same. The issue is that at their scale anything they put their weight behind has immediate global ramifications, because so many countries have become uncontrollably dependent on China. So the money is definitely there (as opposed to here.)

[breerbgoat]

The Chinese government can pay its scientists for papers that might not survive valid peer reviews all they want; up until this year anyways. They are utterly broke, and this won't last past this year.

[Daishiman]

This sounds like cope. The sheer volume of practical research that makes its way into Chinese manufacturing is astounding.

[breerbgoat]

Meh, wake me up when Chinese factories stop using european/american/japanese equipments and european/american/japanese softwares, because that's all they use.

[Daishiman]

Nice way to move the bar. The Chinese are crushing it in state-of-the-art EVs, batteries, solar, heavy manufacturing, produce pretty much every electronics component out there, have advanced chip lithography which has never been closer to what ASML offers, cheap steel, managerial skill to make massive infrastructure developments, and so on.

And every single one of these points was, in the past 10 years, one of the "wake me up when" things that Americans with a superiority complex were going on about.

You're about to get the rug pulled from under you and you didn't even see it.