[1oooqooq]

unless you run osx on a Linux kernel, it will always be so.

not a personal attack on you, but it blows my mind how clueless the current generation of developers become after the docker phase.

[fragmede]

personal attack or not, you could have just left that last bit off and had a good comment.

There's always been a mythos of a true developer. Here's a rant from 1983 about how real programmers don't use Pascal. https://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html

Kids these days...

[brianpan]

I don't understand this comment on any level.

Containers will only ever be on a linux kernel or VM? Never natively on ANY other OS? Only Linux containers exist?

Developers were more clueful about containers before Docker made them wildly popular?

[ahoka]

“Only Linux containers exist?“

In practice, yes.

[maccard]

Windows containers absolutely exist in practice.

[cholantesh]

Yeah, but how often are they needed?

[maccard]

My last job we ran very significant public workloads on windows containers. I don’t know the number of requests but it’s a multi million user application all around the world.

[cholantesh]

Interesting; I may be biased because I've been involved in helping teams containerize as part of a cloud migration and only one or two cases has there been a real 'need', basically for running a Windows service that was eventually retired in favour of a lambda triggered by consuming a message in a queue.

[justinclift]

> unless you run osx on a Linux kernel, it will always be so

Linux is not the only OS that has container like things. FreeBSD had jails years earlier, Solaris had something else which I don't remember any more, and for all I know macOS may have their own native equivalent as well.

Bear in mind that Apple introduced an official hypervisor framework a few releases ago, so they could be doing something similar for containers. It wouldn't be a bad idea. :)