[bee_rider]

This seems more like an argument that the model just shouldn’t have been created, or that it shouldn’t be used. If a model is just an lossy compressed version of a bunch of infringing content, why would Facebook (or OpenAI, or anybody else hosting a model and providing an API to it) be in the clear?

[camillomiller]

To be fair, maybe yes, these models shouldn’t have been created. Well they have been created so now we need a new novel way to make sure they don’t damage other people’s work. Something like this did not exist before, and therefore needs a new set of rules that the model creators, with all their might and power, are trying to strongly lobby against.

[dartos]

Tech likes to follow the “ask for forgiveness, not for permission “ motto.

If OpenAI, Facebook, or whoever asked for permission to gobble up all publicly visible data to train a program to output statistically similar data, I don’t believe they would’ve got the permission.

In that sense, I don’t think these models should’ve been made.

I dont think any of those companies would be in the clear. That’s my point.

AI is a copyright black hole, albeit a useful one.