[mjbeswick]

I take it you are talking about anabolic steroids.

Most people don't understand that a person will not simply gain huge amounts of muscle by taking them. It does allow more lean mass gain, but only if muscle are being stimulated to grow and extra calories are being consumed.

[hypertele-Xii]

I'm talking about having the self-discipline to work out, which is the same self-discipline required for fasting. If you manage to work out, you can manage to not eat. All I hear is a bunch of excuses and trying to create lab drugs to work around this fundamental weakness of character. It won't work, because the same weakness will simply destroy you through some other thing you won't control for better outcomes.