[marcosdumay]

> I refer to the training process in question

Yeah, you go for the red herring.

All of the worthwhile debate is about the real violations. But the public discourse is surely inundated with that exact red herring.

[Ukv]

I addressed model output (infringes copyright if substantially similar, as with manually-created works) and the process of training the model (requires collating/processing ephemeral copies, possibly fair use). What do you think the "real violations" are, if not those?