[Satam]

OP here. Thank you! I think your singling out of truly complex apps like Notion makes the situation more intuitive to me.

[PaulHoule]

Funny I was building apps like that in 2006 so now I look at most of the popular JS frameworks and think "gee those are good for form processing even if they might not be necessary" but not for the kinds of applications I was building back then.