[Alupis]

Intel is a tarnished brand, sullied by unfixable bugs, suicidal chips, security holes, poorly executed "next gen" ideas, and worse. The only thing they're capable of these days, seemingly, is re-releasing slightly optimized, nearly two decade-old architecture... The people who actually choose their CPU (gamers for the most part) have abandoned Intel in droves. Intel is floundering at an epic scale, and showing no end in sight.

Can their long term investments bear fruit? One might hope... but continuing to flail helplessly in the face of the first actual competition in decades may not allow them to harvest that crop effectively.

The near two-decade vacation Intel took from actually being good is insane in hindsight. They thought their competition was dead (due to Intel's own illegal behavior), so they just kept copy/pasting the same garbage over and over, shoveling it to the population with ever increasing price tags (anyone remember the days of $5,000-$10,000+ "gaming" CPU's?).

If any company deserves to fail, it is Intel. Their story is simultaneously hilarious and sad.

[gloryjulio]

AMD almost went bankrupt until xbox and ps apus saved them. Intel just need a chance to reform

[Alupis]

AMD almost went bankrupt because of Intel's illegal behavior.

Intel received a small slap on the wrist, shrugged it off, and then proceeded to do nothing with their illegally-won cleared playing field (making what is perhaps the single biggest business blunder in human history - they effectively were left with zero competition, and squandered the opportunity).

Meanwhile, AMD got scrappy and found a way to bounce back, and today is slowly swallowing Intel whole, one inch at a time.

Does Intel have two decades of runway to recover? I guess we're going to all find out together...

[paulmd]

Wasn’t that judgement recently vacated for failing to prove the case, though?

[Alupis]

No? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Micro_Devices,_Inc._v....

[paulmd]

That’s not the case that’s normally referenced, why don’t you cite the 1991 case while you’re at it ;)

[cyberax]

> AMD almost went bankrupt because of Intel's illegal behavior.

Nope. AMD at the time had been outcompeted by Intel in most areas. They survived as a cheaper alternative for Intel.

[Alupis]

Rewriting history does not change history.

[whamlastxmas]

It’s not even a rewrite, there’s no evidence provided.

[cyberax]

I guess you're too young to remember the videos of an AMD CPU (Athlon) getting hot enough to fry eggs the moment a heatsink is removed.

For years, AMD survived as a cheaper solution to Intel. They got competitive with Opteron (and invented x86-64), while Intel was trying to wring out the last drops out of Netburst.

Then Intel Core came out and Opteron got back to being a cheaper but slower solution.