[JohnFen]

It's a different thing nonetheless. I don't think that the thing that makes the modern web bad is that the "unwashed masses" are using it (as several commenters here assert), it's the commercialization.

The web is no longer a place for people to be able to interact freely with each other. It's a place to monetize or be monetized. That means that a lot of the value of the web is gone, because it's value that can't be monetized without destroying it.

[DrillShopper]

The "unwashed masses" (your words) are only here because companies that want to advertise to them made their systems just good enough to draw them in but just bad enough they exploit the worse instincts in people to make more advertising money.

If the web was not commercial then it wouldn't be mainstream. While they are different they are fundamentally linked.

[musicale]

Libraries and highways are very mainstream and are not commercial.

One possible version of the internet/web is a global library.

Another is as a ubiquitous information utility.

In any case, my vision of a superhighway doesn't include video billboards every 3m in every non-toll lane.

[DrillShopper]

> Libraries and highways are very mainstream and are not commercial.

I would argue that the highways are actually a counter-example of what you are saying. They exist to connect workers to businesses, businesses to other businesses, and businesses to consumers. While there is certainly an amount of traffic on the highway that is not doing those three things, we have a name for the first one in any populated area - rush hour. To say that the highway system was not intended to facilitate commerce is just historically inaccurate.

The difference between the highway system and the Internet is that the creation of the Internet was not intended to facilitate commerce - it in fact took several years (1991-1995 as best I can tell) for it to officially be allowed as the neolibs in government did not want to keep funding the network. That choice is why we are where we are with the Internet - the good and the bad.

[musicale]

Nice response. It's true that highways carry both commercial and non-commercial traffic, and that trucks and commercial vehicles clog up highways and make it worse for non-commercial traffic. There is also a difference between the internet (communication infrastructure) and the web (stuff that uses it), which I was wary of, so the analogy isn't perfect in OP's context.

But the vision of an information "superhighway" should be something that is better than regular highways. The good news is that network bandwidth is much easier to add than highway lanes, and is increasing at a much faster rate than human bandwidth.

[mercer]

Are you talking about the web specifically, or more as a 'fundamental principle'?

[DrillShopper]

I'm using the web as a synecdoche for the Internet as a whole because before the Web there wasn't much of a reason for Joe and Jane Q Public to use the Internet.