[netdevnet]

In the Sims, mortality only applies to adults not toddlers and below, so only a portion of them can die.

How is a Steam achievement a score? A score is a scalar value not a Boolean one. And arguably it is not part of the game but part of Steam. You won't get Steam achievements of any game if you get it from another store. But using the Store achievement definition, Jeremy's games also qualify because they have Steam achievements (most games on Steam do have the achievements even those that fall outside of your definition of game).

[YurgenJurgensen]

How is toddler immortality relevant? A failure state exists. If toddler-only households are viable, that’s just a design oversight, which is an unrelated issue.

I never said that steam achievements were a score. Please try to read my posts. I thought it would be obvious that they represent a success state. I also note that you ignored the fact that Harvest Moon literally has an ending.

Also, I don’t know why Jeremy’s games qualifying is relevant. I never said they don’t.

[netdevnet]

I am not reading your mind just reading what you write. So what is and is not obvious is something solely concerning you.

If Steam Achievement is not a score, is Harvest Moon not a game then? Same thing about crafting and building games.

And having an ending is not synonymous with a success state or a failure state. I think it's clear that your definition is not a valid one as many games don't fit it