[parker-3461]

Given that they had to upgrade to a new camera sensor to get faster readout speed, I’m wondering if they actually changed to a better sensor with improved pixel size and light sensitivity.

I have read the official press release but it seems like there is no mentions of this.

Might need to wait for the ifixit tear down in ~10 days.

Edit 1: there has been some discussions that eventually the Sony IMX903 would be used, but not sure when that will actually eventuate.

[xslvrxslwt]

I'm actually so furious about this. No, they did not put the IMX903 (ik this because microns they showed are still 1.22, not 1.4 of the imx903) - even though it was supposed to be in the 15PM. It's the exact same sensor, all they changed is the processing algorithms & new sensor shift OIS (v2). Nothing that 15PM couldn't have been if they bothered 1% (even now they could push an 'OTA' to turn 15PM into 99.97% 16PM (if they were a real company that is)). IMX903 would remove a need to upgrade the sensor for the next 3-4 years (coming from me, who is already using a phone with a way better 1'' sensor (lyt-900)) but no - they choose to do the same crap scamsung and goolag are doing, albeit iPhone sensors are currently way better as the Scamsung/Goolag are still on the old dogshit HP1 and HP2s from 2020/1 tech (yes, GNK is new but it's the same crap, basically a mix of HP1 and 2) so it's still in the era where Sony was unparalleled (now both Samsung and Omni are killing Sony with their latest sensors). And it's crazy how only Chinese phones are pushing new techs, literally if they had better QC and ideas they'd be 5 years ahead of crapple, scamsung and goolag - like this they're barely better. If Apple had my LYT-900 it'd be a murder scene.

[dmix]

This peaked my interest. Can you explain what benefits this chip would provide users in layman terms? What chip vendor are they using now?

[xslvrxslwt]

It's not a chip but a sensor. The difference between 1/1.28'' and 1/1.14'' may not sound much but the whole tech of the IMX903 (double stacked CMOS for better light gathering, better video performance, cinematic mode) would make it way better. So it'd perform better at night (video especially), it'd have huger pixels & would allow Apple's 24mp mode to truly shine as it'd capture an amazing level of texture any time of the day, like this it just doesn't matter as much

[riley_dog]

https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/pardon-the-expression/pi...

[lolitan]

Are there any phones currently using IMX903 sensor? Also, is IMX903 better than lyt-900? Also, which phones are using lyt-900?

True flagships these days are really made by Chinese firms. I am only holding back because of long term software support. I guess I will grab the next gen flagship honor/mi phone.

[dharma1]

thanks, was looking for confirmation of this. shame. going to skip this years model and hope they upgrade the camera sensor in the iPhone 17 pro. it's the only reason to switch to a new phone these days

[dmix]

A big part of it for content creators is stuff like this

> You can capture 4K 120 fps ProRes and log recordings to an external storage device — a big plus for pro editing workflows that demand a high frame rate and colour grading control.

Might make a dent in mirrorless sales, just w/o the lenses