[consteval]

I don't think this is true, I haven't gotten plasma crashes for a long time now. Even early into Plasma 5 it was stable.

Also bloat is so very debatable. You can't on one hand complain about Gnome being unusable and then turn around and say Plasma is bloated. Uh, that "bloat" is the difference between the two!

[wao0uuno]

The difference between the two is that Gnome is at least trying to constantly deliver stable and high quality desktop experience. I don’t like the way Gnome works, I don’t like the way their organization is run but I like when my computer just works. I don’t have time to fuck around with buggy Plasma widgets. I was a Plasma 5 users for two years until 2022 and I still use it on my Steam Deck occasionally. My opinion is based on experience.

[consteval]

I've never had a gnome extension not break between releases. They're basically plasma widgets, except not even made by the gnome devs. Terrific...