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by onlyrealcuzzo 644 days ago
> Cities where the jobs are located constrain housing supply via capricious zoning policies designed specifically to make housing more expensive.

California is largely a special snowflake where you can have your property value go to infinity and there is NO penalty to you (your taxes only go up a max of 2%, which is less than inflation).

It seems like a trend that voters are moving their states and jurisdictions to a similar tax structure. For example, Pittsburgh hadn't reassessed property prices from like 2012 (the bottom of the Great Financial Crisis) - and is being sued by many people due to this. And I think Michigan moved to a system where there's a cap in property tax increases as well (not sure).

Other than that - everyone else gets taxed more if prices go up.

Financially, it's obviously a winning trade. But most people are too strapped in cash-flow to prefer the trade.

The average person votes for restrictions like this because everyone wants to live in the special snowflake neighborhood that is walkable and quiet and close to everything, where they have space to park their car and play with their kids in the yard, and they give negative f#cks about anyone moving in and not being able to afford even a shoebox.

They own their house and they like about it, and the could not care less about your struggles.

It's less that they are James Bond villains wanting their property prices to skyrocket. That's a side-effect.

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> special snowflake neighborhood ... they give negative f#cks about anyone moving in and not being able to afford even a shoebox ... they could not care less about your struggles ... James Bond villains

This is an extreme (and common) example of black-and-white vitriol on this topic. The reality is that it is very reasonable to highly desire a "neighborhood that is walkable and quiet and close to everything, where they have space to park their car and play with their kids in the yard", and often a person's dream is not even that whole set of features. This desire is especially reasonable if you have committed a lot of your life choices to achieving that dream. The dream is strong in part because this lifestyle was within reasonable reach across many parts of the country for so many decades that it became synonymous with the very name of our nation. On the spectrum of things a person can want, this is definitely not on the "selfish seeming" end where baser things like fame, wealth, and power reside. Just because it is becoming less and less attainable doesn't mean a typical human will suddenly switch to, "oh well, I won't fight for that dream any more then." Multiply that fighting spirit by ten for people who have already finally won the dream and see it being taken away. It will take a very long time for that cultural transition to finish, assuming we keep going in this direction. Economic pragmatism can only inform the human spirit so much.

That's one half of what you said. The other is how we feel about other people. You can chase or attain the dream and vote in a way that preserves the qualities of your community that you fought for, and still have sympathy for others who don't have that kind of community. There is no cognitive dissonance there. Critically, it's important here to understand that there is a difference between, on the one hand, new people wanting to live somewhere because of the current distribution of job opportunities, regardless of how much more dense it must become for more people to live there, and, on the other hand, simply needing quality housing, which is both a much more impactful and much more fixable problem.

Like you (almost) said, for the vast majority of the people you are criticizing, it has nothing to do with home value. People want to live and die in neighborly, safe, clean communities with what feels historically to an American like a "little bit" of room to exist, and not be forced out of their homes by large increases in tax. People really, really want those things. And that's a reasonable thing for a human to fight for, even if it's becoming less and less attainable as the image of the future continues to develop. I.e. you're letting the shitty situation provoke you into harshly antagonizing reasonable people.

> The dream is strong in part because this lifestyle was within reasonable reach across many parts of the country for so many decades that it became synonymous with the very name of our nation.

No, it was not.

1920s Chicago was a gross polluted mess hardly anyone in the US would want to live in today. Ditto for any major city in the US.

By the 1980s you were already deep into the modern car-era dystopia where the highways had been built and barely anything, anywhere in the US was walkable (far less places than you have today).

In between then, you have White Flight - which you wouldn't have had if the city was this Utopian paradise where everyone could easily afford a quite, walkable, cute home right next to everything.

If there was some brief point in time where everyone could easily a afford cute Craftsman in downtown Menlo Park on a part-time salary at the meat packing plant, it was VERY brief.

Since 1985 - wages are up 3.2x and rents are up 4.9x. The major difference is that you used to be able to rent an apartment in the city for cheap, and now you can't, because the city used to be dangerous and gross, and now it's not.

There is a reason why "everyone" wanted to buy a house in a suburban development 40 years ago, and why "everyone" wants to buy something in the city now.

"everyone" is in quotes before some special snowflake says - but my parents liked living in the city 40 years ago! And I want to start my own communal farm in the countryside now!