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by MangoCoffee 649 days ago
Another point to consider: what happened to Telegram's CEO?

Pavel Durov was arrested because he didn't police his platform sufficiently or whatever, or so France claims.

That alone is unsettling. It's been discussed among techies on Twitter. Why would anyone smart enough to create something want to start a company in the EU?

Why risk your neck to start a startup in such an environment?

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This is in addition to the world most expensive taxation (France), so assuming you can manage to be a least ramen profitable you can't expect to cash-in more than ~40-45% of the end profits in your pocket.
If your platform is a cesspool of CSAM and you loudly say you'll do nothing about it, countries not holding you accountable are the problem. None of the other large social platforms have behaved like this because they know where it ends.
There's more CSAM per capita (at least 10x likely more like 100x) on a platforms which "purports to police CSAM" like Civit.ai. No one does anything about it though.

Oh you don't believe me? This is one of the most popular models on their whole site: https://civitai.com/models/402667/age-slider-lora-or-ponyxl-...

Stable Diffusion 1.5 was trained on at least thousands of images of this stuff and no one has tried to get that model taken down, mostly because training on sufficiently large datasets almost guarantees that you'll have illegal content included within it. https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/20/24009418/generative-ai-i...

I'm also shocked for related reasons that the 3 and 4 letters haven't been more upset about LLMs, since there's almost certainly a ton of classified info just sitting on the internet that LLMs have ingested into their training data. (don't believe me? https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2024/03/26...)

Does every startup have to be in social media?
Take your populist desinformation and Russian propaganda somewhere else...

Telegrams CEO was arrested because the company didn't properly cooperate with law enforcement. Every democratic first-world country would have done the same.