[throwaway48540]

That isn't related at all. Please don't try to sell de-growth as some green strategy, you're only going to antagonize people.

De-growth will most likely lead to more CO2 emitted per person. Only high technology can change this.

[wiz21c]

I understand growth as more economic activity and there I fail to see how they are disconnected. I mean, the more you move stuff around, the more you produce AI generated images, the more you consume energy ??? Of course we could as well produce energy without carbon emissions but we are not there yet.

I'd be happy (honestly) to hear an example.

[throwaway48540]

I live near 2 nuclear power plants producing practically zero CO2 compared to the energy output. We are there and have been for decades.

You're basically saying "I don't want to consider other ways to produce energy so you should stop doing all the fun stuff you do". Nobody is ever going to agree with that, and you're going to antagonize people from even trying to be environmentally conscious.

[wiz21c]

> Nobody is ever going to agree with that

I certainly agree with that sentence. I know I'm on a pretty radical side of the question.

[Aerroon]

Wouldn't AI generated images save energy?

AI generates a 10 images in 10 minutes. You pick one. A human would take hours to create one of them.

[throwaway48540]

Ah yeah, I have a friend who's working on an online grocery store. He generated all his images - instead of driving hundreds of kilometers for weeks to take all the pictures. Definitely a huge win for the environmentally friendly.

[wiz21c]

OK, I take it as a good counter example to what I have posted. Thanks for sharing.