[andoando]

Is consciousness not special? It certainly isn't obvious to me my experience of the world isn't present in all matter. And how is it obvious that is a fundamental product of matter?

It seems to me youre just taking the opposite as an axiom without any basis.

My personal belief is the two viewpoints are not so contradictory. Consciousness can be a fundamental part of all matter (not simply an emergent phenomena or product of matter). This is no more magic to me than admitting matter has "energy" or does things randomly.

[chaboud]

If your consciousness is a product of matter, it isn’t special, and, sure, consciousness as we label it could arise in forms of other matter. That doesn’t mean that it’s present in all matter, in the same way that we don’t ascribe consciousness to a virus.

Consciousness is a label. It’s a noun that is used (among many long winded arguments, apparently) to mean a range of things, but relaxation of that label doesn’t extend to universal consciousness of matter without rendering that concept pointless.