[thelastparadise]

> It's already really hard to buy big HDDs for my NAS

IME 20tb drives are easy to find.

I don't think the clouds have access to bigger drives or anything.

Similarly, we can buy 8x A100s, they're just fundamentally expensive whether you're a business or not.

There doesn't seem to be any "wall" up like there used to be with proprietary hardware.

[wkat4242]

They are easy to find but extremely expensive. I used to pay below 200€ for a 14TB Seagate 8 years ago. That's now above 300. And the bigger ones are even more expensive.

For me these prices are prohibitive. Just like the A100s are (though those are even more so of course).

The problem is the common consumer relying on the cloud so these kind of products become niches and lose volume. Also, the cloud providers don't pay what we do for a GPU or HDD. They buy them by the ten thousands and get deep discounts. That's why the RRPs which we do pay are highly inflated.

[walterbell]

Looking at https://shucks.top and https://diskprices.com, prices do seem to be higher.

Homelab vendor in Austin, TX with periodic sales, limited volume: https://shop.digitalspaceport.com

[Dylan16807]

Well if I look at Amazon I see a couple models of external 14TB for $190, and a brand new Exos 16TB for $230. Not too bad. Though personally I get much cheaper used drives and put them in RAID for a NAS.

And they do have better sales.

[wkat4242]

Most of the cheap drives here are refurbs with questional quality. And those Exoses here are much more expensive sadly, especially if you choose only legit vendors on Amazon.