[nicholasjarnold]

> the originals remain dominant for enterprise and free users anyways.

I'm a former pfSense user that reluctantly moved to OPNsense a handful of years ago after a lot of bad press around Netgate started circulating widely causing me to believe that support for the community offering might wane over time. I was under the impression that many people had moved off of pfSense for home use. I'm surprised by your assertion that it "remains dominant" for free users, and I wonder how you might know this?

OPNsense has been rock solid for me, btw. I was reluctant to switch only because of the time sink and perceived risk. Nobody wants to spend a weekend debugging VLAN tagging on their WAN port or some such. Luckily for me, there were no such issues when switching over.

[SpecialistK]

pfSense maintains some momentum due to name recognition, but anyone who digs a little deeper will see that they're clowns and go with OPN instead.

[luckman212]

Can you please cite some recent examples of this clownlike behavior?

[IntelMiner]

They harassed the OPNsense team, registering a domain to besmirch them and then pretended to have nothing to do with it until ICANN got involved

Oh, and they knowingly shipped a broken and insecure Wireguard to their customers, and tried to use their FreeBSD commit status to force it upstream

[SpecialistK]

This is the most recent one I'm familiar with. Jason D even had to get involved and there was a lot of bad blood.

[guiambros]

Try compiling pfSense.

No, here's an even simpler task: try compiling packages for pfSense.

The clowns from Netgate made it unbelievably difficult, for no good reason other than being antagonist to the open source community.

[SpecialistK]

Meanwhile, I've never tried building OPN but it looks well documented and can be added to a vanilla FreeBSD install. https://github.com/opnsense/core

[riedel]

Out of curiosity I googled 'pfsense clown' and found this thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/opnsense/comments/1ct683k/clown_mom...

[cromka]

I did the same and while I never had any issues with pfSense staff being rude or condescending, I had experience such attitudes on multiple occasions with OPNSense staff, and that included my bug reports with fixes provided. I was scratching my head a lot wondering if “I was me, not them” but no, I saw this with others, too, and then realized there’s something wrong there. I don’t even bother reporting anything anymore because of that.

This is all very ironic because that kind of attitude was the main drive for many to move away from pfsense.

[justsomehnguy]

> OPNsense has been rock solid for me, btw

Well, it works.

But try to add some custom parameters to a daemon, which aren't listed on the page. Or try to run more routers than one. Or diag network states even on 4k monitor.

There are a thousands cuts using OPNsense in anything more than a home router. Despite ten years of trying this year I ripped it off where it was installed and replaced back with pfSense.