[obscuretone]

very much so.

I dealt with tech inspections and people would try to go on the track with worn out brakes and suspension all the time. Which is dumb but. So are people.

Even getting to that point means you've gone through the local amateur licence process, shown up to training days, etc.

You have to prove to a bunch of gatekeeping boomers you deserve to race.

[Zak]

A quick look around the web suggests you can do high performance driving events on serious race tracks with no experience at all. You may be required to do some laps with an instructor in the car and they have tight restrictions on passing. They'll probably want to check that your car isn't falling apart for obvious reasons.

If you want to do wheel to wheel racing with other drivers, then there's a license requirement involving a couple days of training with a four digit price tag.

Maybe we have different thresholds for what counts as "bureaucratic shit", but there seem to be some good options to drive fast under controlled conditions and compare your results to others. The most exciting and dangerous versions of it have some gatekeeping and I imagine most of the participants prefer it that way.

[obscuretone]

Depends on the track I guess.

[radley]

It's more about organizations. I'm in the Bay Area, and I've done Luguna Seca a few times through Hooked on Driving.

[obscuretone]

Fair enough. I know guys have that gone there. This was a much smaller amateur track in rural Canada.