[mulderc]

Oakland is a large city and has many nice and safe neighborhoods in it.

[AlbertCory]

> many nice and safe neighborhoods

I think you mean "safer than East International Blvd."

I don't demand that you cite crime statistics by zip code, and compare the good ones to other cities. But that's what you'd need to do to be persuasive.

[mulderc]

Most people understand that large cities have a variety of areas within them and the crime rate isn’t the same in the whole city. There are plenty of neighborhoods that have average to below average crime rates as compared to the rest of the US.

[AlbertCory]

> Most people understand that large cities have a variety of areas

as do I. However, there are city-wide issues you can't avoid, like:

1) If your house is burglarized, will the police show up, at all?

2) When you call 911 for a real emergency, how long before someone shows up?

3) If you get robbed on the street, do the cops show up?