[seuraughty]

“Lue Elizondo (who is very much not a fringe person”

Lue Elizondo is a highly fringe person, and has been for decades. He ‘learned’ remote viewing from Hal Puthoff, and claims he used it to somehow remotely interact with insurgents in Afghanistan. He also claims that he routinely sees colorful orbs floating around his house. He has also been caught faking UFO footage.

In describing (now public) military FLIR footage in his book, he gets several basic facts wrong: https://youtu.be/V6Pc48yXWyI?si=4RIEbhOsM_cJFelg

[lurking15]

Lue Elizondo has not been fringe for decades, he has a very long and established career in counter-intel. Also Mick West left out key details and context of the Nimitz encounter which is laughable if he's trying to purport his video as substantial analysis.

[seuraughty]

If you feel remote viewing isn’t fringe we can agree to disagree. But between that and having colorful orbs fly around his house Elizondo is clearly prone to making fantastical claims without evidence, which undermines any claims of UAP (despite his authority in counter-intel).

[lurking15]

So when Jimmy Carter said he was able to recover a downed plane in Africa only after a psychic helped him, is that fringe?