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by aziaziazi 651 days ago
Oaks easily go to 500y, sometimes up to 1000!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak
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jazzyjackson 651 days ago
I suppose they are the exception tho since 500 year old oaks are likely to be famous. Airlie Oak in Wilmington NC is one I know of.

https://www.starnewsonline.com/story/news/2009/06/13/airlie-...

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aziaziazi 650 days ago
Right! I guess they are exceptions because we cut them before eldery, not because biological reasons. Cows older than 4yo are an exception because we slaughter most of them before but they could live 5 times more.
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ethbr1 650 days ago
Is that true?

I thought super-long-lived trees tended to have special biological optimizations to persist over centuries.

E.g. https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/shirley/sec6.ht...

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randomdata 650 days ago
> Cows older than 4yo are an exception because we slaughter most of them before

Huh? A heifer generally won't have her first calf before two years of age. If you are only getting two productive years out of your typical cow, you're doing something horribly wrong.

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aziaziazi 650 days ago
Right, it's more 4/5 years

Calf 3-5 months Heifer 8-10 months milk cow 4-5 years Bull 18-20 months

https://www.swissveg.ch/life-expectancy?language=en

Looks close to US ranch:

> Meat or beef cows live for 1.5-2 years in the commercial beef industry. However, the natural life of beef cattle is between 15-20 years. Heifers and cows (female cattle) often live for between 5-6 years as they breed to produce the next generation of beef cattle.

https://ohthatschelsey.com/how-long-does-a-cow-live/#:~:text....

Todays milk caws are bred for producing a LOT of milk (30/60L/day), in comparaison those not bred for that produce 4L/day. However this quantity does not keep vealing after vealing and they became unprofitable soon.

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randomdata 650 days ago
Beef cows live for 1.5-2 years, while simultaneously also living for 5-6 years? The claims keep getting stranger and stranger.
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aziaziazi 650 days ago
I think you misread. Beef caws (male) usually live 1.5-2 years, while milk caw (female) live 5-6 years.

> If you are only getting two productive years out of your typical cow, you're doing something horribly wrong.

What do you mean by wrong ? These are the figures of modern practice.

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