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by ajb 655 days ago
Oh that's why forest land has gone up so much! Thanks, I'd seen the same rise, and couldn't figure out why.
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It's also because an exception to inheritance tax that covers farm land and forests. Rich people have been buying up both (Dyson owns several counties now).

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/woodland-owners-tax-guidance

https://whoownsengland.org/2017/09/19/why-is-james-dyson-hoo...

I wonder if Starmer included this loophole in his list of "painful tax rises" he promised for next year's budget.
Literally yes - generational farms are expected to go out of business when the head of the family dies as a result, and have to sell up to massive farm businesses.
That’s great news! Small family farms are a significant economic drain.

I’m only half serious, but protecting multigenerational business does come with serious drawbacks.

This isn't "protecting" multigenerational businesses. Inheritance tax shouldn't be a thing in the first place.
Excluding any type of income from taxation means every other type of income needs to be taxed at a higher rate, all to protect whatever is being carved out. Thus we tax income from investments, salaries, and yes inheritance.

Inheritance tax has positive externalities as inherited wealth discourages people from being productive members of society. Meanwhile taxing salaries discourages work, and taxing investments discourages savings.

> "Inheritance tax shouldn't be a thing in the first place."

The problem with entrenched intergenerational wealth is you eventually end up with a feudalistic society, with a small population of extremely wealthy families controlling all the capital but essentially just becoming rent-seekers, with no incentive or need to innovate in order to maintain their wealth (on the contrary, they will seek to suppress innovation and disruption in order to maintain the status quo). In the long run this leads to violent revolution or other forms of societal collapse.

I've been mulling over buying up farmland and planting trees and then just sitting on it for 20 yrs to capitalize on it.
If you buy a forest of trees planted 20 years ago it will be cheaper than farmland, and you may be able to take income from thinning from day one.
In the us sometimes people do that because of an agricultural exemption to property taxes.
Some states call it different things but most call it in "Current Use." [0]

If you want to take the land out of Current Use, you'll usually have to pay the back taxes first.

Around my parts, it's seen as a very good program as it promotes natural growth. It's also great for protecting wetlands that wouldn't be buildable anyways but can now be protected at a lower cost.

[0] https://www.forestsociety.org/advocacy-issue/current-use

Income from the sale of timber is exempt from income tax & corporation tax. Forrest ownership in the UK is quite literally growing money on trees.
Why is it exempt?
Some rich people own forests and have friends in government. And it can be passed as a way to encourage forestry as being eco friendly.