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by passwordoops 662 days ago
Tech execs: The government is the only source of inflation!

Also Tech Execs: Raise prices!

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I always find it weird when someone's economic model of the world is basically "I hope corporations aren't greedy and don't raise prices too much" Surely there must be something else going on, no?
I'm no tech exec, but this seems fine to me. If your government increases the money supply, ceteris paribus the demand curve (for every product) will shift right. At that point the tech exec can raise their price along with their competitors for an easy win. They're not forced to, but it's monetary policy that made it possible.
No need to jump into this ring of assumptions built onto assumptions (plus, what pre-IPO company is reading an Econ 101 textbook on Macroeconomics…?)

As you near an IPO, you’d want to make your business look like it’s quite profitable to prevent the share price from nosediving on Day 1.

You're right of course. I guess I was trying to steelman the hypothetical exec's position as not totally unfounded or unreasonable, not give the final verdict.
Chicken or the egg?

You’ve just pointed out a correlation but I’ve yet to see actual causation here.

Oh sure, I didn't mean I was giving the full explanation, only that I felt the idea wasn't so ridiculous.
I haven't noticed tech execs say that (the first bit).

Is that an Elon Musk thing? (Genuine question)

Complaining that loose monetary policy is responsible for inflation is a pretty common theme from Musk/Trump fanboy type CEOs.

They’re also starting to question universal suffrage in public now. Good times.

A loose monetary policy does contribute to inflation. It's not the sole contributor, but when a lot of money is injected into the system, and the # of goods & services stay the same, inflation occurs.

Increasing production takes time. There's not a magical machine that can double it's production overnight: New machines & factories & supply chains need to be built out, and those can take months at best.

Terms like loose are relative so it’s often associated with unhealthy extremes. But in a growing economy you need to increase the money supply to avoid long term deflation. Further, the economy naturally expands and contracts over time so timing things correctly and a loose money supply doesn’t necessarily mean short or long term inflation.

Of course everyone is operating with in perfect information so it’s impossible to achieve a completely stable currency.

Per my sister comment, the Fed printed 80% of all the dollars that ever existed in 2021 and 2022. Did the economy expand 4x?
Think through your argument.

We didn’t get 300% inflation. So clearly the value of all dollars isn’t simply a direct percentage of the size of the US economy or all wealth in the US etc.

To quantify “loose monetary policy,” between 2021 and 2022 the US Fed increased the money supply by 4x. Put another way 80% of all US dollars that have ever existed were created between Jan 2021 and November 2022.[1]

Prior to this event, inflation was tame. After this event inflation exploded. Coincidence? I think not.

Notably, the government then blamed COVID, supply chain issues, and the Ukraine war as the reasons for inflation, but neglected to mention money printing.

[1] https://techstartups.com/2021/12/18/80-us-dollars-existence-...

> Complaining that loose monetary policy is responsible for inflation is a pretty common theme from Musk/Trump fanboy type CEOs.

What is the source of inflation then?

Inflation is when prices go up. CEOs (loosely speaking) set prices.
So why didnt price go up prior to covid, if the CEO can manage to set prices?

Or is it that they have always set their price to the maximum that their customers will bear, and it's just that now, their customers were willing to bear a bit higher (due to some external cause)?

CEOs didn't realize they could set prices that high and still keep their customers.