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by olivierduval 656 days ago
Is X a bralizian institution ? I don't think so... so X has no right to oppose this decision !

If the judge decision is illegal, that's the problem of the brazilian political and law system, and of the brazilian People. But X is not a brazilian citizen AFAIK... so it either follow the rules, leave the country or is illegal.

Moreover, when Starlink refuse to respect a court order, Starlink is although a problem (be it another Musk property or not)

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> Is X a bralizian institution ? I don't think so... so X has no right to oppose this decision !

They have the right because you can appeal to the court. The problem is: it’s the Supreme Court, your appeal would be judged by the same judge.

> If the judge decision is illegal, that's the problem of the brazilian political and law system, and of the brazilian People.

True, but since the Supreme Court is also the only court where politicians can be judged, no one will do anything to stop them.

X did leave the country, but it won't leave the internet. It's up to Brazil to block them.
People can do whatever they want. They just need to accept the consequences.

I post my comments here knowing there's a risk this judge might learn of my existence and persecute me for them. I chose to accept that risk because I find this situation to appalling to keep quiet about it. This wasn't a choice I made lightly. My own parents who lived through last century's military dictatorship recognized the signs and asked me to stop commenting online. They feared this guy might order my arrest and generally ruin my life. Their fears are not unfounded.

So I respect Elon Musk for this utterly political move. He accepted the consequences and did something few others would do. I can respect that. I have no doubt he has hidden self-serving reasons behind this move but that's an analysis for another day. Right now I'm just interested in the political ramifications this will have for my nation.

> I post my comments here knowing there's a risk this judge might learn of my existence and persecute me for them

My brother in Christ. There is ZERO chance of this to happen for this kind of comment and to me It only tells me you need to distance yourself a bit from this. Focus on something positive for a week. You're going down a path that is so far outside the realm of possibilities at this time that's worrisome.

Unfortunately HN doesn't allow for deleting an account or old comments and it would be mostly pointless anyway because 3rd parties will archive them. While the probability of information posted here reaching Moraes is virtually zero it is very possibly in the future this information will be analyzed by large teams or automated systems and could lead to issues with authority. The future is unpredictable and this is not without precedent in countries like China and Russia. Even in Brazil I believe there are cases where people where arrested or at least fined for liking or sharing a post.
I wouldn't say there's a zero chance. The judge has gone after YouTubers and journalists before. I know that at least some of them fled to the USA to escape his persecution. There's one journalist in particular that the judge hates so much he was mentioned in those WhatsApp message leaks. Judge and his people apparently think the USA is being "difficult" for not giving the guy up.