[riscy]

The plethora of crappy, bootleg cables with USB-C connectors that are single purpose (power only, low-speed data only, etc) has created plenty of e-waste, in addition to confusion. I don’t see how this is an improvement over the licensing model, where you know every cable works the same.

[Dylan16807]

But that's what all lightning cables are. Low power limit, low speed data only.

[thedrbrian]

I can put 12w through a lighting cable. That’s fine for most if not all of their iPhones and iPads. Hell it’d be ok for my MacBook

[sgerenser]

You can put 12W through all USB-C cables as well (AFAIK). The crappy ones might be limited to something between 12-50W, while decent ones allow for 100W or more.

[dzikimarian]

> Hell it’d be ok for my MacBook

If you keep it turned off for entire day to charge then sure.

[talldayo]

The licensed model failed. I own multiple gas-station Lighting cables with no data, only (5w) power. Ultimately everyone converges on the "fuck it, what's the cheapest thing on Amazon" mindset and licensing doesn't help.

[MBCook]

The number of “USB-C” things I have that aren’t is infuriating. Won’t use a real charger or PD, only works with an A to C cable, only works when plugged in “right side up”, etc.

At least with Lightning and Micro-B you knew the score.

The good USB-C stuff is great. The rest is worse than B ever was.

[dzikimarian]

What are they exactly? I haven't see such issue in years.

[MBCook]

They’re not “real” computer devices but other things with charge ports. One is an air duster, for example.

I also have some credit card payment hardware that is clearly USB-B and they just swapped the port.

The computer world seems fine. It’s everyone else.