Gleam seems cool. In the Discord the lead guy bit off someone’s head in chat and I thumbs downed his comment, then he removed my thumbs down and messaged me to say that I was rude. Bit of a turn off tbh…
This is just an anecdote and should be taken as such, but I don't know how relevant what was said is—removing an emoji reaction on one of your own posts is a pretty petty abuse of admin privileges regardless of the context.
I'm actually less concerned about the follow up message in private, it's the undoing of expressions of disapproval of the admin's behavior that is most concerning regardless of what was said by the original person. A good admin can cope with disagreement about their moderation practices without having to remove the evidence that someone disagreed.
Yeah I didn’t give his comment much thought other than the thumbs down, it was the follow up reprimand for even emoting and removing the emote. Just the whole exchange rubbed me the wrong way. Here are the receipts https://imgur.com/a/nsRpFGk
I don't think either of you come off either great or horribly here. That is kind of a rude action (esp I mean, were you just a lurker at this point?) but also he didn't handle it very tactfully.
But it does seem wild to bring it up as a top level comment on another forum now. What are you hoping for? People to not use the language? An apology?
Lead dev behavior is highly relevant to programming language discussions because the lead dev has a massive role in shaping everything about the ecosystem. This is just one anecdote, but it suggests that the lead dev is still pretty young and immature and has a fairly fragile ego, which could have a major impact on the development of the ecosystem.
I'd definitely be interested in other people's experiences with them to see if there are contradictory anecdotes, but I don't see it as irrelevant to bring up here.
(All that said, I concur that OP could have likely behaved differently as well. But again: handling disruptive behavior effectively is part of the job of a BDFL/lead dev, and this incident was not handled well.)
We take moderation very seriously in Gleam, and I assure you this poster has omitted much of the context here. If you have any concerns please do get in touch with the moderation team either on discord or via "hello at gleam.run". Thank you.
Not looking for anything. This post was titled “My first experience with the Gleam language”, I also think the language was pretty great but I am sharing my poor first experience with the language and the community. I don’t even fault the guy for not wanting to answer questions, but it was in the #off-topic channel and the response was just abrasive.
I hope people use the language, I think it has huge potential and honestly it looks beautiful. I thought sharing ‘my first experience’ was pretty on topic.
They were asking Rust questions in one of the channels going back and forth and the mod out of the blue told him to stop asking Rust questions because he doesn’t give Rust advice for free. Which I understand, it just came off in a highly abrasive way so I thumbs-downed it.