[antimemetics]

„AI“ (a stupid term to begin with) is just a tool like any other - you can use it to make art.

Of course it’s not going to be creative on its own - it obviously is not intelligent.

But for me comfyui is an incredibly cool tool to be creative.

Such a boring topic after all - all the noise it attracts won’t amount to much once people understand this technology

[rvense]

I think it's an interesting debate: what is this thing we've made? And what does its existence teach us about ourselves?

You're right that just going yes it is - no it isn't isn't so interesting, but this mainly stems from the fact that "intelligence" is a poorly defined, pre-scientific term. And really most times you're talking about about whether some X is a Y, you're not so much talking about X as about your definition of Y.

I think the thing is, with LLMs/Generative AI we see some aspects of ourselves, but not enough that we can accept that it is fully like us, hence the resistence. To me, the answer is clear: what is usually called intelligence is actually several different things, of which whatever it is an LLM does is one.

[Devasta]

People do understand it, no one is creating art by thumping "tracer overwatch big boobs trending on artstation" on a keyboard and then heading to lunch.

This idea that people who disagree couldn't possibly understand is misguided at best.

[mistrial9]

does the tooling augment a human, or is the tooling sold to replace a human?

[dragonwriter]

> does the tooling augment a human, or is the tooling sold to replace a human?

It's bizarre on HN of all places, given its connection to the tech industry and the history of tools sold by that industry, that someone would imagine these are mutually exclusive options.

As is often the case with tech industry tools, the tool in fact augments a human, and is (often) sold to replace a human. That's barely even a superficial contradiction -- enhancing the productivity of each human doing a task, from the perspective of consumer of the kind of human labor involved that is making short-term decisions around a fixed amount of needed output -- replaces some share of those humans rather directly. (On a broader analysis, this is often not true, because it also expands the market for the kind of work it augments by reducing the price per unit output to the point where more marginal uses become viable, but the individual existing purchaser of output often isn't concerned with that.)

[mistrial9]

The one liner above is an adoption of a significant question asked by the inventor of the computer mouse, Doug Englebart. Doug spend decades in tech and is the man in the "Put this, there" demo, which changed technology history. Doug's audience was sometimes Defense through the Stanford-area. Teams and communication were his everyday world.

[antimemetics]

For me it’s solely the former even if the marketing/press around it hypes up the latter