[sevnin]

Anti-russian? Russia is a major security threat to Lithuania that engages in cyber warfare, disinformation and sabotage campaigns.

- Two months ago there were major arson attacks and failed attempts linked to Russians in multiple states like Poland and Germany.

- Russian linked agents at the beginning of school year dissiminated false information about bombs being planted at schools in Lithuania which disrupted the process in general and undermined trust of parents and children.

- They are also constantly creating false narratives about ongoing social events with ant-lithuanian anti-european spin and spreading them online.

- Lets also not forget that Russia is constantly using migrants to attack borders of European states.

Russians are trying to wage war in every gray area they can find. Why this paragon of free speech (kekw) constantly engages in anti-lithuanian policies?

Even more interesting recently they started mapping out locations of optic fibers scattered across the ocean. Lets hope they wont use this information.

[aaomidi]

So you agree with OP. Just say it’s to stop Russia.

[aguaviva]

The point here is -- it's not like the threat from Russia isn't (unlike the hypothetical threat from terrorists) entirely real.

[aaomidi]

Threat from terrorist isn’t real?

All of these are real threats. Even the CSAM arguments have a grain of truth to it. What changes overtime is people’s relationship to these threats and their perception of what mitigating factors are actually going to be effective

[sevnin]

No I disagree, what are you even refering to? What are these particular actions?, curiously we never refer to russian actions as anti-ukrainian, anti-polish, anti-european. Its always the other way round.

[aaomidi]

I think you should go read the comment chain again.

The person was saying that you can use a “Russia” line to get the population to agree to a measure or chat control.

You just went in and basically proved their point.

[sevnin]

If he worded it like you did now "Russian line", I would agree--but he didnt. He used a word that Russia loves to use in cry bully situations. It implies that Lithuanians are doing this because they just happen to hate poor russians while they have legitimate reasons to be scared and are forced to react.

You may think that Im pedantic or whatever but Russia has history of subtly playing with words and thus dictating the discourse. For example term eastern europe was hijacked by soviets to enshrine and justify their sphere of influence which was a completely made up term which descends from germans and their ostsiedlung--the settling of lands to the east of germans states by germans.