[ang_cire]

10? If I am the 12th hire at a company and there's already a dedicated PM there, I'm out. 100, understandable.

[icedchai]

I've seen companies where there are almost as many PMs as engineers. It's totally dysfunctional.

[malux85]

Yep I agree, one of my last jobs a few years ago was like that - 1 PM for every 2 engineers. The entire time was PMs fighting with each other of scarce development resources, completely toxic culture