[riedel]

But FOSS and OSS are brands/labels of FSF and OSI and sometimes it is good to have such labels. This like arguing that same SmartTV is not smart or that there is other ways making a TV smart. I think it is good to have some innovation in licencing (like ethical licences which are by definition probably not free), but not by redefining stuff.

[skrtskrt]

sure then people should stop crying and pooping their pants when someone tries to introduce a license that's not technically OSS but tries to address ethical concerns.

"It's not OSS" is a not a value judgement unless you think that the four freedoms were written by god. But it is treated exactly as religiously.

[eadmund]

> "It's not OSS" is a not a value judgement unless you think that the four freedoms were written by god.

It’s not a value judgment unless the four freedoms reflect one’s values. They reflect mine; therefore I judge that non-free software does not align with my values.