[zarzavat]

> I don't think this is true either - a large part of the Rust community seem to think that it's as complicated as it needs to be. As a beginner/outsider, I found it kind of cumbersome to get started with, but that's certainly not everyone's opinion

With any language there’s an active part of the community and then there’s the “dark matter” of people who use the language but are not actively involved in shaping its direction, forums or subreddits, etc.

Of course the people who are actively involved are likely to be of the opinion that all the complexity is necessary, but I doubt that applies to the broader Rust userbase.