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by jtriangle 661 days ago
(1) 4chin is too dumb to use HN, and there's no image posting so, I doubt they'd even be interested in raiding us (2) I've never seen anything illegal here, I'm sure it happens, and it gets dealt with quickly enough that it's not really ever going to be a problem if things continue as they have been.

They may lose 230 protection, sure, but probably not really a problem here. For Facebook et al, it's going to be an issue, no doubt. I suppose they could drop their algos and bring back the chronological feeds, but, my guess is that wouldn't be profitable given that ad-tech and content feeds are one in the same at this point.

I'd also assume that "curation" is the sticking point here, if a platform can claim that they do not curate content, they probably keep 230 protection.

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>4chin is too dumb to use HN

I don't frequent 4cuck, I use soyjak.party which I guess from your perspective is even worse, but there are of plenty of smart people on the 'cuck thoughbeit, like the gemmy /lit/ schizo. I think you would feel right at home in /sci/.

Certain boards most definitely raid various HN threads.

Specifically, every political or science thread that makes it, is raided by 4chan. 4chan also regularly pushes anti/science and anti-education agenda threads to the top here, along with posts from various alt-right figures on occasion.

search: site:4chan.org news.ycombinator.com

Seems pretty sparse to me, and from a casual perusal, I haven't seen any actual calls to raiding anything here, it's more of a reference where articles/posts have happened, and people talking about them.

Remember, not everyone who you disagree with comes from 4chan, some of them probably work with you, you might even be friends with them, and they're perfectly serviceable people with lives, hopes, dreams, same as yours, they simply think differently than you.

lol dude. Nobody said that 4chan links are posted to HN, just that 4chan definitely raids HN.

4chan is very well known for brigading. It is also well known that using 4chan as well as a number of other locations, such as discord, to post links for brigades are an extremely common thing that the alt-right does to try to raise the “validity” of their statements.

I also did not claim that only these opinions come from 4chan. Nice strawman bro.

Also, my friends do not believe these things. I do not make a habit of being friends with people that believe in genociding others purely because of sexual orientation or identity.

Go ahead and type that search query into google and see what happens.

Also the alt-right is a giant threat, if you categorize everyone right of you as alt-right, which seems to be the standard definition.

That's not how I've chosen to live, and I find that it's peaceful to choose something more reasonable. The body politic is cancer on the individual, and on the list of things that are important in life, it's not truly important. With enough introspection you'll find that the tendency to latch onto politics, or anything politics-adjacent, comes from an overall lack of agency over the other aspects of life you truly care about. It's a vicious cycle. You have a finite amount of mental energy, and the more you spend on worthless things, the less you have to spend on things that matter, which leads to you latching further on to the worthless things, and having even less to spend on things that matter.

It's a race to the bottom that has only losers. If you're looking for genocide, that's the genocide of the modern mind, and you're one foot in the grave already. You can choose to step out now and probably be ok, but it's going to be uncomfortable to do so.

That's all not to say there aren't horrid, problem-causing individuals out in the world, there certainly are, it's just that the less you fixate on them, the more you realize that they're such an extreme minority that you feel silly fixating on them in the first place. That goes for anyone that anyone deems 'horrid and problem-causing' mind you, not just whatever idea you have of that class of person.

> Go ahead and type that search query into google and see what happens.

What are you expecting it to show? That site removes all content after a matter of days.

Indeed. But 4chan has archives, for instance https://archived.moe/
These people win elections and make news cycles. They are not an “ignorable, small minority”.

For the record, ensuring that those who wish to genocide LGBT+ people are not the majority voice on the internet is absolutely not “a worthless matter”, not by any stretch. I would definitely rather not have to do this, but then, the people who dedicate their lives to trolling and hate are extremely active.