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by lolinder 663 days ago
Yes, there's a reason I specified "product openness". React isn't a product and never could have been, so while I'm grateful to them for releasing it open source it doesn't really represent the same kind of play as Threads or Llama.
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breezeTrowel 663 days ago
How is Llama a product? It's more like React, PyTorch, GraphQL, etc.
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dagmx 663 days ago
Meta’s AI offerings are products. They’re featured in Instagram, Facebook and Messenger.

They’re part of the Rayban partnership. Imho definitely a product.

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breezeTrowel 663 days ago
Yes and Facebook uses React and GraphQL. Meta AI uses PyTorch. Does that make them all products?
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dagmx 663 days ago
No, because they’re not exposed to users as features that they interact with. From a user perspective, they don’t ever see if it was made using those tools. They see the AI front and center.

I feel like thats a pretty strong distinction.

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breezeTrowel 663 days ago
They see AI features front and center. They dont see the backend (which may or may not be running Llama). Same goes for React although, with React, the framework is what the end user directly interacts with. So, by that logic, React is more of a product than Llama.
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dagmx 663 days ago
Let me flip this around.

If you are a user, what feature is react giving you? Pre and post react, Facebook is largely the same to a user.

Pre and post graphql, Facebook is also the same.

To the user, neither of those are expressed as features.

Llama / Meta AI is a feature that changes how a user interacts with the system. When it was added, it’s noticeable. If it were to be taken away it would be noticeable. Nobody was boycotting react.

That is the difference between an implementation detail and a product/feature.

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