[khafra]

Executives and managers do actually contribute useful things to large-enough firms. But the failure mode of engineer-driven companies is Juicero; the failure mode of MBA-driven firms is killing people for profit (lying in order to sell poison to third-world mothers, sending death squads after labor organizers, lowering passenger airliner quality until they start falling out of the sky, etc.).

[maeil]

> But the failure mode of engineer-driven companies is Juicero; the failure mode of MBA-driven firms is killing people for profit.

This is one to hang on the wall as an office poster!

[rqtwteye]

I wouldn’t call Juicero engineering driven. More over-engineering driven. Similar to software developers creating hyper scalable microservice architectures for even the most trivial systems. True engineering is to understand the requirements and creating an efficient solution for those, not just throwing every possible technology at the project.

[regularfry]

That's why it's a failure mode.

[phanimahesh]

Juicero feels like a manager or growth hacker or hype person driven thing. I find it hard to imagine juicero being an engineering team.

[khafra]

I'm not a mechanical engineer, so I base my "overly engineer-driven" impression of the company almost solely on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cp-BGQfpHQ

[blitzar]

Juicero feels like a failure mode of grindset.

[mindslight]

... and the Juicero type failure is worse from the perspective of most investors.