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by thefz 667 days ago
> If Durov is liable for crimes committed on his platform how far away are we from making phone companies and ISPs liable for crimes committed using their services?

> This is a very slippery slope.

I wonder what is hard to understand. Is there CP/violent content in Instagram? Nope. In Facebook? Nope. In YouTube? nope.

Why? These companies are held responsible for the public content, published in clear, on their platforms and they enforce moderation to remove illegal content.

Telegram is in clear and has public content violating the law. They should have done the same, they did not.
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numpad0 666 days ago
Some of European countries has CP laws written to scratch moral itch, they can SWAT raid anyone screenshotting some games on App Store and their courts aren't going to care.

And then there's likely a real CP sharing groups on some of those platforms: algorithms work as invisible cloak for those groups, and we in the public without that preference won't have idea until police discovers one through a confiscated phone.

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ramblerman 667 days ago
> I wonder what is hard to understand

The fact that you can't understand the difference between facebook/youtube and an ISP.

An ISP would have to vet every site they open up to their users. Which would effectively incentivize an AOL like internet with just 5-10 websites.

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an_guy 667 days ago
> Is there CP/violent content in Instagram? Nope. In Facebook? Nope. In YouTube? nope.

Yes. Infact you can find public groups, pages and channels posting all kind of illegal stuff (drugs, weapons, fraud, dox..)

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simion314 667 days ago
Really, report them they have to take them down, if they do not take CP down then make a hacker News thread , you for sure will be on the top of the page.
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NayamAmarshe 666 days ago
Telegram regularly takes down such channels too but their mistake? They underestimated the moderation team size and move at a slower pace than other trillion dollar corpos.
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BlueTemplar 666 days ago
The main mistake seems to have been to ignore requests from law enforcement - and since these requests allegedly only numbered in the dozens, it's not a team size issue.
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KomoD 664 days ago
> Is there CP/violent content in Instagram? Nope. In Facebook? Nope. In YouTube? nope.

Yes there is... and a lot of it.

Facebook is especially bad at moderation.

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