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	by aspeckt112 656 days ago
	Good write up that wonderfully encapsulates how stupid Microsoft’s naming is - you didn’t even mention .NET standard. I love .NET. It’s a great stack, especially for backend web apps. Blazor is a great SPA framework too. But I loathe how Microsoft continue to handle just about everything that isn’t the framework and C# / F#. It’s laughable.

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paranoidrobot 656 days ago

Well, to be fair .NET Standard wasn't a framework, it was a standards/compatibility label and compilation target.

.NET Standard includes various versions of things that MS doesn't even touch.

I stopped doing .NET stuff before .NET 5 so I'm not hugely up to date with the latest shenanigans.

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aspeckt112 656 days ago

Oh don’t get me wrong - I wasn’t criticising your write up. It was concise and still relevant.

It’s just funny for newcomers to peel back the onion more. Writing a source generator? Target .NET standard 2.0 (not even 2.1) for a whole host of reasons.

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486sx33 656 days ago

But….net is everything! And also nothing ! It’s a product? It’s a suite! It’s a system !

Visual Basic .net ! What ?

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paranoidrobot 656 days ago

The ".NET" label was applied to a bunch of things at Microsoft. It was also an early name given to their social networking / IM things.

But for the last 20-ish years it's really only been applied to things related to the .NET Framework.

So, yes - Visual Basic.NET is a language - it's the language that replaced Visual Basic 6. It compiles to the Intermediate Language (IL) that the Common Language Runtime (CLR) executes. There are other languages that compile to IL, too like C#, F#.

The .NET Framework is really a bunch of libraries and tools that are packaged together.

The .NET Standard is a standard that allows you to build a library to a known set of supported libraries and IL / CLR features.

So, yes, depending on which specific part you're referring to - it's all of those.

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pjc50 656 days ago

This was probably copying Sun's "we put the dot in .COM" advertising. Yes, this is stupid.

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hermitdev 655 days ago

Microsoft needs to stop letting marketing decide product names. Just look at Xbox: Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S.

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Maken 655 days ago

The "Xbox Series X" is such a nonsensical name that only a marketing department could come with it. And this entire line of names exists solely because someone thought that nobody would buy a "Xbox 2" instead of a "PlayStation 3".

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trustno2 656 days ago

It's the Microsoft way to apply the same name to bunch of unrelated products.

everything is .net, azure, 365, now also copilot.

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ForOldHack 655 days ago

Copilot is just Clippy II+.

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anticensor 653 days ago

More like Clippy-II/ChatGPT.

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toyg 655 days ago