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by alephnerd 659 days ago
This might make you feel old, but the referendum was 30 years ago, and Black October was 55 years ago.

The whole Quebec movement is basically dead in the water now.

An entire generation of Canadians didn't exist or don't remember that.

I'd argue the GWOT, the Great Recession, and COVID have had a stronger impact on modern (2020s) Canadian politics and discourse than the Quebec Independence Movement.
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qball 659 days ago
>The whole Quebec movement is basically dead in the water now.

Quebec's Separatist party has complete electoral dominance (except for Montreal, but Montreal is the least Quebec part of Quebec) and has the ability to force the government's hand on most things.

If the Eastern Big City Party loses the next election as is projected (and the Bloc correspondingly loses all of its power) they'll be back.

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alephnerd 659 days ago
PQ has largely transitioned away from soverignity and largely campaigns on culture war issues like Bill 21 and immigration.

Only voters who are 65+ are split on soverignity. Every other age demographic overwhelmingly supports remaining in Canada [0]

This can be seen with the CAQ, which has poached most of the PQ's leadership and campaigns almost entirely on Bill 21 and immigration [1], not on "Quebec Libre"

[0] - https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/17/quebec-francois-leg...

[1] - https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/bill-21-groups-f...

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philistine 658 days ago
Are you completely out of the loop that much? The PQ is first in the polls, and has promised a referendum within a first mandate. It's a whole fucking big deal that they managed to lead in polls right now while promising that.
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alephnerd 658 days ago
Polling does prove that it's driven by immigration and culture war concerns, not Sovereignty [0]

[0] - https://policyoptions.irpp.org/fr/magazines/mai-2024/sondage...

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philistine 654 days ago
> PQ has largely transitioned away from soverignity[sic] and largely campaigns on culture war issues like Bill 21 and immigration.

Your initial point was not that people chose the PQ over language concerns, but that the party had transitioned. The party has done no such thing. It's doubling down on separatism if anything. It's crazy.

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