[throwaway215234]

> Seriously DACH mentality and influence has been devastating on serious tech development in Europe

German corporations (and politics) are full of bean counters, bureaucrats and underachievers. It's filled with people who love to talk, excessively plan, draw flowcharts and build frameworks - essentially everything except getting shit done.

[majoe]

From my experience this is true for big German corporations, but is it really different for big corporations from other countries?

While I agree, that DACH mentality in big German corporations "has been devastating on serious tech development" at these companies, I don't see how this would affect the whole of Europe. It's an opportunity for other countries/companies to do better.

[Aeolun]

From my experience, this is true for big corporations anywhere. It seems that when a company reaches a certain size it becomes incapable of digging itself out of that hole.

[lifestyleguru]

German shit is done in Poland, Romania, and Belarus, and for less than 50-60k EUR pa.

[mathverse]

No longer true. 40-60k would be reasonable in those countries as well.

[lifestyleguru]

Yeah but don't count on more. Belarusians are quite desperate with current geopolitics, can easily push them below 40k.

[Numerlor]

Eh I'm in s similar country and around 30k for a more senior position is the normal

[antonkochubey]

I'm in Latvia and senior developers are paid 60-90k here.