[foverzar]

> well, at least Signal

Basically only Signal + Whatsapp.

> claiming they don't do anything for privacy.

Well, Signal is kind of a scam in that regard.

[codethief]

How is Signal "a kind of scam in that regard"?

[foverzar]

Government funding?

Mandatory phone number exposure? (or did they finally implement usernames?)

A joke of a "registration lock pin" instead a proper 2FA to protect against sim-swap?

[tapoxi]

Yes they implemented usernames earlier this year. They are fully rolled out and don't expose your phone number.

They received $3 million from the open technology fund, which is a government sponsored fund for censorship circumvention projects. https://www.opentech.fund/about/congressional-remit/

[literallycancer]

Funding source is irrelevant.

[Synaesthesia]

Kind of important for trust reasons.

[kome]

that's honestly quite naive

[dijit]

https://blog.dijit.sh/i-don-t-trust-signal/

tl;dr: Lots of claims, lots of support.. but very little to back it up once you scratch the surface.