[z_open]

What about group chat encryption? You can not possible say telegram is more secure than signal or WhatsApp.

What did I say that made me an apologist for government overreach? I recommend users use Signal? Your accusation is unfounded when I was complaining about a lack of encryption.

[chucke1992]

With Whatsapp it is pretty obvious at this point that it is in cahoot with governments in regards of backdoors and stuff. With Signal? Who knows? Maybe too.

Governments don't go after services that they can access freely.