[rafaelmn]

> This is really no different from any other language.

There are languages with big standard libraries and first party frameworks.

I can build a complex web app in C# using only packages published by Microsoft in ASP.NET and EF.

Python ships with a lot of "batteries included".

Not saying I expect that from rust considering the funding/team size discrepancy and language targets - but I disagree that every language is same in this regard - JS/Node is notoriously bad, Rust is around C++ level, and plenty of higher level languages have first pary/standard library stacks.

[Ygg2]

Moment you add something to std it's effectively died. Strong backwards guarantees will choke development of library.

Python std is where libraries go to die.

[rafaelmn]

Who says that's a bad thing ? Sometimes things are good enough and just need to be vetted and maintained.

[Ygg2]

Rarely that's ever true. Hardware and software assumption will change over time. E.g. Simd is rare and not available to 99% of hardware has it, pointer is 16/32/64 bit wide, that API is available, SGML/JSON/XML is all parsing you will ever need.